Obama and the Elian Gonzalez saga

The Politico had this story on how Obama was on the wrong side of the Elian Gonzalez saga.  They detailed how this singular issue could impact the outcome of Florida in November. Here is the link to the story:  http://www.politico.com/news/stories/060 8/11295.html

Here is my suggested solution:

Obama should arrange a high-powered press conference denouncing the repatriation of Elian Gonzalez on humanitarian ground.

On humanitarian ground, I believe that the wishes of the boy's mother who died in pursuit of a better life for her son carried more weight than the silly argument of the DOJ then.

Obama should publicly state that the position of Craig and Holder in his campaign has no relationship to their positions or actions in that unfortunate episode.

How do you think Obama should handle this?  



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I am not an Obama supporter (2.00 / 4)

But I support Sen. Obama in this instance.

It was right to reunite the boy with his father, and it is right to stand up to those who would insist otherwise.


If you follow history with a long enough arc, things always get better, and the truth always prevails...Gandhi
by SevenStrings on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 12:30:24 PM EST

Tough one (2.00 / 3)

but I think I side with you on this.  He had a living parent, and Cuba (for all its problems) is not Haiti.  Family trumps politics.


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by chrisblask on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 12:43:37 PM EST
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Re: Obama and the Elian Gonzalez saga (2.00 / 1)

I think that the Elian Gonzalez thing was about 11 years ago or something like that, and perhaps it's not something Obama really needs to "deal" with at all?


John McCain wants to stay in Iraq.
by ihaveseenenough on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 12:33:18 PM EST

Holder (none / 0)

should have gone under the bus with Johnson two weeks ago when they made a sideshow on the Hill.  The guy has to deal with the Marc Rich pardon, in addition to this Gonzales headache.


by Blazers Edge on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 12:35:39 PM EST

Just ignore the Elian Gonzalez saga !!! (2.00 / 3)

It's radioactive (still) in Florida - - don't go there, don't discuss it, don't mention it, don't take a position on it, don't hear what you're being asked if asked a direct question regarding it.
There is NO WAY to discuss Elian and win.  So just don't!
John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 12:39:05 PM EST

Re: Just ignore the Elian Gonzalez saga !!! (none / 0)

Really?

In a sign that Democrat Barack Obama will be competitive in Florida, the nation's largest swing state, a new poll shows that Obama is leading Republican John McCain comfortably in South Florida and has a slight edge among Hispanics.

The poll for The Miami Herald shows Obama preferred by a 46-30 percent margin over McCain in Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach counties, Florida's most populous area. South Florida traditionally votes Democratic, but the size of the margin often dictates whether the Democrat wins in a statewide contest.


by venician on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 04:35:24 PM EST
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Re: Obama and the Elian Gonzalez saga (2.00 / 2)

You don't just take away the rights of the Father because you don't like where he lives.


Tony Romo for Secretary of Awesome
by kasjogren on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 12:43:17 PM EST

Re: Obama and the Elian Gonzalez saga (2.00 / 2)

I agree. The whole Elian Gonzalez situation boiled down to the living parent's rights.


by Pravin on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 01:11:43 PM EST
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Exactly.  And as bad as it sounds, I don't care if it was a factor in losing FL in 2000, you simply don't take away parental rights because of geography.  Had the mother lived there is an argument but now it is just two sides disgustingly using a tragedy as talking points...queue Terri Schaivo


Tony Romo for Secretary of Awesome
by kasjogren on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 09:17:27 PM EST
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Re: Obama and the Elian Gonzalez saga (2.00 / 1)

This is a political minefield. I really have no great advice for him here other than to ignore it. The key would be to rally the other immigrant groups. Quite frankly, the older Cuban community in Florida can go f*** themselves. Along with AIPAC, it's amazing how politicians will kowtow to them They have had way too much influence on our foreign policy considering their tiny size. They need to be put in their place.


by Pravin on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 01:10:34 PM EST

He should stay out of it (2.00 / 1)

It's not an issue except for people who won't be voting for Obama anyway.

There is no law here or anywhere else that allows a son to be removed from his father because of the father's political or religious beliefs. That would open up a pandora's box if it was allowed. Children being kidnapped from their parents to 'save them' from the religious or political beliefs of their parents or where their parents chose to live.

Cubans in Cuba who hate Castro were shocked at the thought that they could lose their kids simply because they were Cubans living in Cuba. As if the politics of the government made them bad parents.


by hankg on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 01:28:03 PM EST

"It's not an issue except for people who (2.00 / 1)

 won't be voting for Obama anyway."
God, I wish that were true!  Unfortunately, it's not.  I know some very liberal young Cuban Americans who just lose it over Elian.  If the 3 Cuban American Republican Congressfolk survive, it will be because of Elian.
So just avoid the subject!  Really, just say nothing about it!  Do nothing about it!  Make believe you're hard of hearing if someone asks about it!  It's a lose/lose proposition in which logic and reason just don't matter.
It's like discussing the legitimate grievances of Palestinians at a NYC synagogue, or the legitimate security concerns of Israel in a  Detroit mosque - - a waste of breath that will only hurt you.

John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 02:25:47 PM EST
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Elian Gonzalez (none / 0)

Should govt be in the business of taking a child away from a natural parent merely because a bunch of right wing fascists in Miami don't like the father's politics?

Let us know if the answer is yes and then you can consent to having your child taken away from you merely because others don't like your politics either.


by HillsMyGirl on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 02:39:17 PM EST

No Dem Will Get the Idiot Cuban Vote Unless (none / 0)

they put forward a position short of ending the embargo that allows for much more family visitation and fund transfers to Cuba. We should advocate the right of families to visit their family and friends on the Island. This would be popular amongst all but the most stalwart Cuban right wingers.


by hypopg on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 02:46:43 PM EST

Re: Obama and the Elian Gonzalez saga (2.00 / 1)

Whew!  When you said he was on the "wrong side of the Elian Gonzalez saga" I assumed you meant he opposed repatriation!  As a parent, the whole idea that a state could decide to take my child from me is abhorrent.  


by Headlight on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 02:49:24 PM EST

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It seems to be a pretty loaded use of language to say that he was on the "wrong side" of the issue. From my perspective, he might have been on the side that was unpopular in parts of Florida, but he was clearly on the right side and should stand by the principle.  The boy had a living parent who loved him, just as his mom had loved him.


by KateG on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 03:00:48 PM EST

Whisky-Tango-Foxtrot (none / 0)

Is there some kind of concern-troll-spam order up over chez FlowBee today?


by BlueinColorado on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 03:12:52 PM EST

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Obama should do what he believes in. I believe that it was too bad that Elian's mother died. However, once she died, it was best for Elian to be reunited with his father.


Dizzy Zzyzzy
by Zzyzzy on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 05:11:27 PM EST


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